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The Comment Dilemma

Ok. As I mentioned in my yearly goals, few people comment on my site. I've asked around and a big reason is that they don't like commenting anonymously (Timbo94). That is why blogs such as Color Pencils and Dream Weaver get comments and I don't (along with the fact that their content is good), because they use IntenseDebate so their accounts are centralized.

Hoping to please my readers, I decided to try to implement IntenseDebate on my development computer. At first, it went pretty well. I replaced the comments on all commentable pages with the IntenseDebate JavaScript. It looked great and seemed to work.

However, it all went downhill from there. First of all, the main index page shows the number of comments next to each post. I was able to emulate that nicely by hacking some of the special JavaScript included in the Wordpress IntenseDebate plugin. However, while the post at the top of the page said "No Comment" happily, the rest all said "undefined" and the link didn't even point to the right place. Strange.

More importantly, there's the topic of my sidebar widgets. Since I would no longer be in control of the data, I couldn't access it freely. IntenseDebate does provide "Top Commentors" and "Recent Comments" widgets, but there's a catch. First of all, it's more JavaScript. You have to use the HTML it provides, no changey. There is limited CSS customization support, but it didn't help. The widgets looked terrible in my sidebar. Second, Recent Comments showed an excerpt from each comment. That's way too long. Mine only shows the post title, the author and a link. Third, the "Popular Posts" widget would still have to die because part of the fourmula for popularity is the number of comments on the post, which is unaccessible to me due to IntenseDebate.

Lastly, switching to IntenseDebate would involve me losing all comments already posted on Four Island as there is no easy way to import the comments. And we can't have that, right? :)

Because of all of this, I've decided not to go with IntenseDebate. It'd be too much trouble and it'd probably hurt Four Island rather than help it. So, I think I'll try to spruce up my own commenting system. So, I have some questions I'd like to ask you people (please comment, a few anonymous comments won't hurt and you're contributions will help remove the anonymous problem):

  1. For the anonymous problem: I can't use the IntenseDebate accounts, but how about OpenID? Is that a plausible direction to go in?
  2. Or would it be better for me to simply make it a lot easier to register? No, that probably wouldn't help. Sorry, disregard that suggestion.
  3. Ok, perhaps I'm completely lost on the whole "anonymous" problem. Please leave suggestions, thankses!
  4. Should I add comment threading like IntenseDebate does? I'm leaning towards the "no" end of the spectrum, but it's up to my readers. Sortof.
  5. Any other IntenseDebate features you'd like to see in Four Island?

Anyway, thanks in advance for helping. I'm just trying to make Four Island a better, more social place. :)

Hatkirby on January 5th, 2009 at 12:38:40pm
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I love it how, even after my desperate pleading, no one commented. You people are awesome! /sarcasm

Hatkirby on November 20th, 2009 at 3:50:15pm

I use OpenID, so that is good. I think that an easy way to fix the problem would be to have an AJAX-y hidden form for logging in that appears when you click a link above the comment entry thing. Then you don't have to go off to wherever to login.

tamasys on November 22nd, 2009 at 11:04:08pm

This is an old post, btw. :P Well, to log in, all you have to do is click LOGIN in the navbar and it sends you back to the page you were at when you log in, but a Twitter-like popup login form would be awesome too :P

Hatkirby on November 23rd, 2009 at 9:54:40am

Yeah, I know it's old :P. I know that it's simple, but I know that most people don't like to click things if it means they might lose their place or text that they have entered. Therefore a Twitter style one would be good.

tamasys on November 23rd, 2009 at 8:32:03pm

That is a good point, but techinically, even if I have the login form pop open via AJAX, submitting the form will require a page load. So users will still lose their input.

Hatkirby on November 24th, 2009 at 9:51:19am

I know that a lot of sites have AJAX logins - that is, they log the user in via AJAX as well, so that no page reload is required.

tamasys on November 27th, 2009 at 12:31:20am
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